As Alde Compact 3000/3010 is a combination boiler it heats both the heating fluid and hot water at the same time. ... Master of None *****, "Central heating and hot water working fine on gas power, but not on 230 V electric power." If we have a comfortable temperature if the temperature is set to say 22C then I am not really interested if the actual temperature is 18C or 25C. I have same no-electric heating with my Alde 3020, but gas ok. HI Has this been resolved as i now have this on my 2018 679. Restore formatting, × "Central heating and hot water working fine on gas power, but not on 230 V electric power." The Alde central heating system is a hydronic system, with the same heating principle as in most of our homes. Technical support may request your boiler model number and serial number. It is absolutely essential that the antifreeze is at least 40% in strength otherwise you could experience operational problems with you Alde Central Heating System. If you set the required temperature to about 5 °C below the ambient temperature on the control panel, the heating fluid won’t circulate out to the convectors as … Display as a link instead, × I may put a little bit more in there just for assurance. —3010 and 3020-series. Quite a succinct problem. Just had the van serviced and the Alde fluid changed. Posted on 26/12/2017 07:37. The Alde manual gives the following instructions. Thanks ET. If we used it on electric alone is it good enough? Keith and Michelle provide their thoughts on Alde wet central heating vs Truma blown air heating. Follow us or alternatively, you can register with our online community Club Together, Address: Caravan and Motorhome Club, East Grinstead House, East Grinstead, West Sussex, RH19 1UA. Alde International Systems AB est l’une des premières entreprises mondiales en matière de développement, fabrication et commercialisation de systèmes de chauffage pour les camping-cars et les caravanes. So once it is operating give it a prolonged and excessively hot  run, this effectively best conditions the fluid greatly minimising any future tendancy to form air locks. Follow the Caravan and Motorhome Club via our official Facebook page for up-to-the-minute news, holiday ideas, events, activities and special offers. Installation and repair must only be undertaken by a professional. May 7, 2005 1,982 191 19,735. Most likely the power cable has slipped out of the caravan's consumer unit. A. Heating totally dead! Forums. Yes, you can use the Alde to heat the inside of the camper even if the boiler/hot water tank is empty. Once purged it is a good idea to really get things very hot to best clear all the air via the header so it does not precipitate out again and cause another air-lock in early life. You can post now and register later. Just had the van serviced and the Alde fluid changed. This manual is approved for Alde Compact 3020 heaters which are installed in a vehicle accor-ding to CE 0402 No. Then go to the Alde touch control panel and switch it on. The Alde needs 12V supply whatever mode of heating (gas/electric) so start by switching it on at the black isolation push button on the PSU, and ensure your lights work to verify you have 12v power in the caravan. You can find us at some of the world’s leading trade fairs – or maybe when you’re staying in one of the fabulous recreational vehicles available on the market. Find all the answers to your questions in our Alde Heating Questions & Answers. We insulated the external pipe work which helped but did not cure the problem. Aug 3, 2019 269 249 Nottingham Funster No 62,953 MH N+B Arto 79R A Class Exp 10 years with hires, Newbie owner Oct 3, 2019 #1 Hi All, Pretty much the only other irritant on our first trip has been my inability to make the water heating work properly on gas. The Alde also contains an electric heating element, sometimes two, of about 1000 watts each, which will allow you to use shore power when available instead of burning propane. Gas perfect for heating but mains the fans on but pushing cold air around, Dalto54321 hasn't been back since posting that in November. Alde International Systems AB is a world-leading company which develops, produces and markets heating systems for caravans and motorhomes. Find out why we use cookies and how to manage your settings. Jan 2, 2009 117 0 0. Hmmm,recently had the system drained and refilled on my "Concorde" by 'Southdowns' ,,all the above problems .SO,thanks to you all,i have to bleed it then !!. 99.9% certainty, your caravan will not have "Main 230 V". It can be quite difficult for the caravan designers to site the Alde control panel in a place that's easily accessible but also cavity-ventilated, not shared with other electronics or affected by other heat sources. So as you can see from the video above, Keith and Michelle raise a selection of potential pros and cons for both Alde and Truma heating systems in caravans and motorhomes. MarisaM Member Posts: 9. meadowsweet Alde Heating System Our Accessories Products Manuals About Alde Service and Support FAQ UK INT Global FR Français DE Deutsch SV Svenska US United States Lang Search Menu Home About Alde Contact us Get in contact with us at Alde How to get in contact with us at Alde. Contact Address: Truma Corp 2800 Harman Dr Elkhart, IN 46514 USA Tel: +1 (877) 860 9814. I have changed both fuses twice, one in the heater and one in the fuse board. Thread starter annierich; Start date Nov 8, 2009; Sidebar Sidebar. The optional Alde 3010-246 load The Alde 3020 Compact HE boiler has two monitor allows you to set a limit 230 V electric heating elements, outputting on the current drawn by the 1050 W and 2100 W, or 3150 W combined, vehicle and the electric heating and drawing 5 A, 9 A, and 14 A respectively to automatically accommodate it. Registering your Alde product can help obtain more efficient warranty service in the unlikely event of a problem. Air locks can readily form not long after a fluid change if not well purged, but the tests spoken of here will quickly indicate that is the case. No ceramic heater needed, and it keeps the basement (and everything else in the camper) toasty warm. It will also if you sense a real gradient tell you the flow rate is too slow. So I see the display temperature as just a number. You will do no short-term harm by increasing the pump speed, things will be noisier and over time pump wear will increase, but system heating performance will be better. more than a separate heating and hot … Find manuals, broschures and documents regarding our heating systems and accessories for mobilehomes and caravans. Alde International Systems AB is a world-leading company which develops, produces and markets heating systems for caravans and motorhomes. Hot water for the whole family with Alde Flow × Thread starter Suzie; Start date Aug 30, 2020; Sidebar Sidebar. E-mail: service@alde.us Alde Heating Control Panel Blank - Help. Make sure only the correct circulation pump options are ticked. Contact Addresss: Wrangels Allé 90 291 75 Färlöv. Alde system problem from beginning. If the heating is working well and no cold spots I would leave it alone. If you did then perhaps someone would know where the bleeds are. I can see no problem turning up pump speed but I would personally suspect an air lock - particularly as recently refilled. Have checked the 12v in-line pump setting and the blue dial seems to be at about 2 which is what is recommended. In this case, the Alde system is no longer in a complete 230 V circuit. We thought about going away after Christmas. With a normal shower flow, Alde Flow together with Alde Compact 3020HE delivers 3.5 litres of 40-degree shower water per minute for as long as you have water left in your freshwater tank. Our airlock made its way to the towel rail, where it was easily released. If you set the required temperature to about 5 °C below the ambient temperature on the control panel, the heating fluid won’t circulate out to the convectors as the circulation pump will be stationary. The heating system always kept the van at a good temperature but it wasn't fully 'comfortable' and needed a bit of manual intervention on the settings to keep it stable. After our first night with our, new to us. Caravan Discussions. Contact Address: Alde International (UK) Ltd Huxley Close Park Farm South Wellingborough Northants NN8 6AB Great Britain. richardandros. Question is - am I likely to do any harm by turning it up and is that likely to solve the problem?Especially since the heating is working- sort of - and the last thing I want to do is trash it completely. Technical. It’s all pretty much self-explanatory as for as the heat for the camper itself. The overflow tank, when cold, shows glycol just above the minimum line. I took it for its first service on 12 December 2016. In which case only tube very close to the boiler would be warm at all. John Mcm You can find us at some of the world’s leading trade fairs – or maybe when you’re staying in one of the fabulous recreational vehicles available on … The only antifreezes you can mix are the blue antifreeze with the pink G13 or G12++. I have an affinity 554 2016 , which has alde wet central heating. Alde Heating System provides the entire family with an unbeatably cosy indoor environment. Moreover, the system is so effective that each cubic centimetre of your mobile accommodation is almost imperceptibly enveloped in cosy heating. The separate hot water system was fine. In this case, the Alde system is no longer in a complete 230 V circuit. Alde not heating water. Welcome to Alde! Any advice would be much appreciated. Prolong your heating system's service life with Alde Glycol Glycol should normally be changed every other year, but If you use Alde Premium Glycol G13, the replacement interval can be extended to every 5 years under normal operating conditions. It thought it was 29 degrees in the van so obviously wouldn’t come on until we set it to 30! It can happen that a control panel gets fitted in the kitchenette near the kettle, for example, which is not ideal for obvious reasons. You can enjoy the market’s absolutely quietest heating system because the heated air circulates on its own due to the laws of nature. We use cookies to ensure we give you the best experience on our website. Technical support may request your boiler model number and serial number. A couple of years back I remember I had a guest who had purchased a used caravan which came with the monochrome control panel. The biggest thing to watch is if you are bleeding the system, is to unplug the 110 plug, so that in the event of the system calling for heat on shore power it will not burn up the heating elements if there is not adequate fluid in the Alde. Alde Flow connects into the heating system and preheats the freshwater before it is conveyed into the boiler's ordinary water heater. I did find that I could adjust the sensor by + or - 5 degrees so that helped but does it need re-setting and how can this be done? Had our fluid replaced at Alde last month. Anyone with any thoughts on the problem. You can run the Alde System off your propane, shore/electric, or you can do a … Technical support may request your boiler model number and serial number. Forums. Alde heating problem Alde heating problem richardandros replied on 26/12/2017 07:37. If you are questioning your capability, pay to have this service done by a professional. However, since I don’t know where all the bleed points are - particularly in respect of the bathroom radiator which will probably mean removing the cover ( and I dont know how) plus the manual talks about having to tilt the van to remove stubborn air locks - I will probably leave well alone for now rather than risk losing the heating altogether. By However, from a discussion with one of our guests who has experience of both heating systems they stated a benefit of the Alde system in particularly cold climates. We thought about going away after Christmas. Clear editor. Alde UK use Comma Super Coldmaster Concentrated Antifreeze with 2 year Longlife protection. Must admit an air lock was my first reaction. Nov 8, 2009 #1 We have been told that this system works best using gas and electric together. Need to get in contact with us at Alde? There aren’t any cold spots in the pipe work so I’m guessing that an air lock isn’t the issue.   Pasted as rich text. It should light up and become active. Turn the pump to 5. By Alde International Systems AB is a world-leading company which develops, produces and markets heating systems for caravans and motorhomes. Although the van is getting warm, it is mild at the moment and even without full efficiency that could be achieved. Welcome to Alde! Therefore, proper inspection/maintenance of the Alde system is crucial. Phoned Alde who suggested the fuses/s had blown. Holidays across the channel - from 1 January 2021. If "Main 230 V" is ticked, whenever the caravan is connected to 230 V power, it will send the circulation signal to a fictitious pump and your central heating will not work (hot water unaffected). Hot glycol water circulates around the system through radiators and pipes by means of a pump. If you have filled the Alde with antifreeze (not recommended by Alde) there may be some additional concerns about heating the antifreeze, but I'm not absolutely certain of that. However, I think this was related to winter use of the Alde for cabin heat--some vague concern about heating the antifreeze possibly causing solvents to volatilize and do unspecified damage to people or property. You should be able to easily access the glycol expansion tank. In the service menus there is a temperature offset adjustment. Started 6 hours ago, By Aug 30, 2020 5 3 15. Tel: +44 (0)1933 677765 E-mail: info@alde.co.uk After 10minutes pump back to 2. Book online today using our new online booking system. Technical support may request your boiler model number and serial number. Member. Can this mid- reading of ambient temperature be resolved another way? The ALDE heating system relies on Glycol (Anti Freeze) to function correctly and just like the coolant in your car, if it’s not changed periodically, serious problems can occur. Tbh I don’t worry about the Accuracy indicated temperature on the display. Air locks don't retard the fluid flow they "stop" it, once the fluid is flowing the system will then progressively purge any minor entrained air and dissolved air out. If you set the required temperature to about 5 °C below the ambient temperature on the control panel, the heating fluid won’t circulate out to the convectors as … Vous nous rencontrerez dans les plus grands salons du monde ou, pourquoi pas, lors d’un séjour dans l’un des plus beaux véhicules de loisir du marché. Edit just noticed your later post richardandros. National regulations must be followed. The following information will help you to check if your heating system is okay. In fact, that same Alde everywhere and consistent warmth works just as well on 110-volt electric as propane. Tel: +44 (0)1933 677765 E-mail: info@alde.co.uk. Air lock things are located in the bathroom by the towel rail and behind front seat. Final thoughts. Since then I have had the heat on quite a bit while temps in the 30s and not sleeping in it. MarisaM Member Posts: 9. richardandros. Upload or insert images from URL. Contact Address: Alde International (UK) Ltd Huxley Close Park Farm South Wellingborough Northants NN8 6AB Great Britain. I would up its speed before doing anything else and see how it goes. Point is bleeding is done with the system switched offf. Leaking Alde heating. Tel: +46 (0)44 71270 E-mail: info@alde.se The Alde Heating System is made up of three cylindrical chambers: the center one contains a propane burner, the second one contains the glycol fluid and electric heat elements, and the last one contains the domestic water (see the figure to the left). Really if it is an airlock then you should be getting your money back as they haven’t done the job properly. Alde heating. The heating side of the Alde system does not need draining as it is a mix of antifreeze, and it requires a special pump to change the fluid, which should be done every 3 years . I started by “burning off” strategy for any factory residue in the heating system. Help please! Welcome to Alde! If you have an Alde Heating system with the Compact 3020 HE, we can connect it with Truma’s … With the climate control system in your vehicle, you get a comfortable temperature on a hot summer day. Previous Next S. Suzie. About Caravan and Motorhome Club Classifieds, £12 saving per night on Club Site pitch fees. These can be obtained from the boiler’s technical data label or service card. I don’t want that to put you off an Alde heating system, just bear in mind that leaks can happen. × If the whole circuit is heating, the system is working and the issue is not an air lock. Caravanner from East Yorkshire. The Alde hydronic heating system in the Cirrus also works on 110-volt electric. We install, service and repair Truma’s different climate systems. Not a massive problem because the van still gets hot - just takes a lot longer than previously. Did anyone escape in their caravan for New Year? We bought a new Unicorn Madrid in October. Our radiator did not have a cover, so can't help in that respect unfortunately. Alde system problem from beginning. Tel: +44 (0)1933 677765 E-mail: info@alde.co.uk Alde G13 Premium Antifreeze or G12++ is pink and is the type of antifreeze Alde recommend to use in Alde Heating systems. Fortunately they had supplied me with that for such an eventuality. Started 2 hours ago, Copyright Alphaquad Ltd Varies. on a swift 480 size c'van there is a bleed valve behind both long seat backrest boards in the rubber hoses which connect the pipes to the heat exchangers. Really like it, especially the Alde 3020 heating system which is really efficient and effective ... once its running. Member. We are on EHU and all 12v working OK. Can't see any helpful advice in booklet that comes with the Alde. Strangely enough my brother had the same problem with his brand new Swift Elegance fitted with a Alde 3020 system. That said, it’s a bit arbitrary because only 1,4 and 5 are marked ( as far as I can see) and it’s not a linear scale. If contacting us about an Alde system fitted in a caravan or motorhome, please include the make, model and model year. Quote; Report; Like; I’m hoping someone can advise me. With regards to bleed points it makes sense to fit one on the towel rail, if you have one, as it’s a high point, it might not be the only one and the bleed points are positioned at the whim of the installer, which is why you need to check the positions on the specific the you have. I’ll now summarise those points below with a few of my own comments/thoughts. Hi Leesdad, did your friend resolve his problem? Any feedback would be appreciated! Had the heat up at 80 degrees 2 times for 10-12 hours each. Just had the van serviced and the Alde fluid changed. If you check the Standby Screen on the Alde touchscreen control panel, the electric plug symbol (230 V power supply detected) … Powered by Invision Community. April 3, 2019 in Caravan Heating & Cooling. Doesn’t make any difference whether on electricity or gas, or both. On the Unicorn that I have there are supposed to be 5 bleed points dotted round the system. Quote; Report; Like; I’m hoping someone can advise me. I recall a recommendation--by Alde, I believe--not to put antifreeze in the HW tank. "Hot water working fine on both gas and 230 V electric power, but central heating only working on gas power." If you check the Standby Screen on the Alde touchscreen control panel, the electric plug symbol (230 V power supply detected) is probably not showing in the upper right corner. These can be obtained from the boiler’s technical data label or service card. Mailingaddress: Box 110 66 291 11 Färlöv. When full, an Alde system will weigh on average 6.6–15.4 lb. An air lock as its name implies is a "lock", a lock to the fluid flowing around the circuit. Posted on 26/12/2017 07:37. (rounded). I took it for its first service on 12 December 2016. 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